Data on Common Opponents – Kent State

OSU FootballYes, dear, there actually is a common opponent between OSU and Kent State – the Akron Zips.

The tables include the following ‘important’ stats: total points (Pts), total yards (Yds), total first downs (Dwns), and turnovers (TOs); for each team and its opponent (Opp).

Table 1: Kent State

  Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Akron 20 27 375 245 15 16 4 2
TOTAL 20 27 375 245 15 16 4 2
Average 20 27 375 245 15 16 4 2

 

Table 2: Ohio State

  Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Akron 20 2 363 69 18 3 5 1
TOTAL 20 2 363 69 18 3 5 1
Average 20 2 363 69 18 3 5 1

 

Notes:
You see, this is what’s awesome about comparing apples to apples. Look at how the OSU and Kent State offenses performed against the Akron defense… their numbers are almost identical. Interesting.

As for the two points the Buckeyes gave up? I feel a jaunty haiku coming on:

Beanie’s curs-ed knees
Down in the end zone so said
BTN replay

Tell us what you think. (About the numbers, not the poetry.)

Data on Common Opponents – Purdue

OSU FootballEach week from now until the end of the season, we’ll be publishing a couple of tables that show relevant statistics between the common opponents of OSU and their next foe.

At first, the tables will be thin. (As of now, OSU and Purdue only have one common opponent, hence why the data in each row is identical). As the season goes on, however, the data will become more comprehensive.

Like last year, we’ve only included the following ‘important’ stats: total points (Pts), total yards (Yds), total first downs (Dwns), and turnovers (TOs); for each team and its opponent (Opp).

Table 1: Purdue

PURDUE Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Minnesota 45 31 504 469 28 25 1 4
TOTAL 45 31 504 469 28 25 1 4
Average 45 31 504 469 28 25 1 4

 

Table 2: Ohio State

OHIO ST Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Minnesota 30 7 459 277 24 15 1 2
TOTAL 30 7 459 277 24 15 1 2
Average 30 7 459 277 24 15 1 2

 

Notes:
With only one common opponent between the two teams, it’s hard to draw conclusions. Still, OSU’s defensive numbers are better across the board, keeping the Gophers’ offense to ten fewer first downs and just over half the yardage that Purdue allowed. (Note: two of Minnesota’s four TOs were “on downs.”) The number that stands out the strongest is in points allowed – Purdue’s 31 to OSU’s 7.

Offensively, note that Purdue scored more (45 pts) with a similar amount of offensive production (yardage-wise) as the Bucks had. This suggests that Purdue’s offense was moving the ball easier than the Bucks’ offense was. However, this should be taken with a grain of salt: the two coaches ran very different offensive schemes. Tiller depended on the pass (338 passing, 166 rushing), where Tressel used the run (209 passing, 250 rushing). One of the problems in using only one set of data points, I guess.

That’s enough analysis from me. This is meant to generate discussion, not be a MotSaG lecture/opinion post, so please share your two cents in the comments.

First place vote?

OSU FootballThat jarring, crashing, concussive rumble you heard over the weekend was nothing more than the construction work being done by the CFB voters as they wrenched all the teams in the top ten into new positions.

Quietly hidden in the cacophony, however, is a little nugget that has gone largely unnoticed:

osufirstplacevote.jpg

We all know the obvious question, here.

So who was it? Bielima? Brewster? Spurrier, perhaps motivated to atone for his boneheadedness last week?

I wonder if it was Ty Willingham. Washington played against OSU and USC just two weeks apart. Maybe his team’s near-upset and 24-point performance against USC convinced him that OSU was playing better ball, and motivated him to pull his vote from Carroll and give it to the Sweatervest. That wouldn’t explain where Cal and LSU fit into his rankings, however.

What do you think?

It’s all their fault

FootballAs I’m watching Tulane hang with LSU (who are 40(!) point favorites), I can’t shake this feeling that it’s all Appalachian State’s fault. Their monumental upset of Michigan in week one has emboldened and energized underdogs across the country. This is college football, not March Madness! The Louisiana States are supposed to crush the Tulanes of the world, not let them lead 9-7! So now, teams like aforementioned LSU, Arkansas and Louisville are reaping the terrible benefits of what App. State hath sown. I don’t see it ending anytime soon now. Sure, LSU will probably go on to win this game, but the damage is done. Tulane believes!

(I will take this opportunity to point out that some teams are able to handle their business against lesser foes.)

So while I could take the easy “Buckeye Fan” road and blame the Wolverines (who are currently losing to Northwestern *snicker*), I’ll take the high road and blame Appalachian State. You know, the team that lost to Wofford. They ruined it for everyone else.

Thanks a lot, Mountaineers.

Update: I love college football!!

Week #5: Minnesota Open Thread

OSU FootballWelcome to the Open Thread of week 5, where the Buckeyes will meet the Gophers in the Metrodome for the last time.

Minnesota has been its own worst enemy this season. Of the eleven teams in the Big Ten, ten of them have turnover margins ranging from plus 5 to minus 3. The eleventh, Minnesota, has a margin of minus 12. The Gophers also lead the conference in penalties. And defense, you ask? Let’s put it this way: as bad as Northwestern’s D looked against the Buckeyes last week, Minnesota’s is even worse, across the board.

However, no one is quite sure how good Minnesota’s offense could be if it didn’t turn the ball over so often. They run a spread offense, and are a second-half team (the Gopher offense has outscored opponents 111-62 in the second half this season). They play with a nothing-to-lose mentality until the final whistle. Clearly, this is a team that the Buckeyes must score a lot of points on early.

In short, though, this should be a easy tune-up game for the Buckeyes, and give them an opportunity to practice some “away-game-at-night” skills for the real competition coming up in the next month or so.

Enough analysis – the Gophers don’t deserve it. If you still crave analysis, head to BP or 11W.

This week’s questions for the MotSaG crew:

  • Final Score?
  • # of total TOs earned (or caused by) the Little Animal?
  • Do you prefer kittens, or puppies?
  • What side of the spoonage with V. Gholston would you prefer? (Acceptable answers are Spoon or Spooned By.)

sportsMonkey
Final score: OSU, 50-13 with close to 600 yards of offense
Lil’ Animal TOs: 2
Kittens/Puppies: Puppies
Spoonage: Hmmm… Tough one. I guess “Spoon.” That way I could leave if it got weird. Otherwise I’m locked in a crushing Gholston snuggle singularity from which light can’t even escape.

Sylvester Yon-Rambo
Final score: OSU, 34-3 Buckeyes with 400 yards offense cause we play Tressel Ball which means great Field Posistion.
Lil’ Animal TOs: 1 Forced Fumble and 2 sacks. So 1 TO
Kittens/Puppies: Puppies for sure……Kittens SUCK
Spoonage: This is an easy one for me I want to be spooned by ARMS. I want him to whisper sweet nothings to me about Buckeye victories and killing people with his Biceps. I want also see on a side note……VG SPOONING Little Animal……while his dad is in the background in full face paint talking about thier spooning posistions………I think I have said to much about my dreams.

el Kaiser
Final score: OSU, 48-0 with at least 500 yards of offense. I doubted the Buckeye firepower last week, but not this time. D pitches a shutout.
Lil’ Animal TOs: I’m going with 2 as well, but one he takes to the house.
Kittens/Puppies: Kittens all the way. I hate those cute little dogs with their floppy ears and the wet noses. They can bite it!
Spoonage: I’m going to abstain from the spooning question. I feel it’s time to inject some testosterone back into MotSaG.

UM’s 2-2: Electric Boogaloo

— Scene: University of Michigan Locker Room Pep Talk, 3:00 EDT 22 Sept. 2007 —

Carr: “Who are we?!?”

Team: “WOLVERINES!!”

Carr: “Push it!!”

Team: “PUSH IT TO POP IT!!”

Carr: “Rock it!!”

Team: “ROCK IT TO LOCK IT!!”

Carr: “Break it!!”

Team: “BREAK IT TO MAKE IT!!!”

Carr: “Who’d we lose to?!?”

Team: “I-AA APP STATE!!”

Carr: “And who made us look like high-schoolers on national TV?!?”

Team: “OREGON!!”

Carr: “And have we learned any humility or developed any class yet?!?”

Team: “NO!!”

 

If you want to take a trip down memory lane, here are the ESPN highlights from Michigan’s famous game against ElectroRock University. Ah, I totally forgot how awesome Ozone “ShabaDoo” was at quarterback. Those were good times.

Sing it wit me: “din DAA DAA da doh doh, din DAA DAA doh doh…”

Irish lose bye week

FootballSOUTH BEND, INDIANA – Earlier today, Notre Dame officials were surprised to learn that the Fighting Irish football team had dropped to 0-5 on the season, after somehow losing during their bye weekend.

“I’m not exactly sure what happened,” said head coach Charlie Weis. “We lost to the Spartans on Saturday, which left us four games down, now they’re telling me that we lost to the bye week too. I’m confused.”

weis.jpgThe loss has exacerbated the failures of the Notre Dame program, and has only added to the most disappointing season in team history.

Amazingly, until its win over the Irish, the Bye Week had never won a game in its 120-year history. Its victory finally ends the NCAA’s longest-running record of 78,232 losses in a row.

“I’m not sure what the big deal is about that record, though,” said Weis. “I mean, it’s just statistically likely to happen sooner or later. Go ahead and blame me, if you want. I think. I mean, that Bye Week doesn’t have a Super Bowl ring, does it? So it doesn’t know everything. What were we talking about?”

The football team is facing severe criticism from fans and alumni. Athletic department officials are already threatening to limit Weis’ contract extension to only eight more years. By 2015, say most Notre Dame fans, these Tyrone Willingham-related losses are expected to finally come to an end.

Week #4: Northwestern – Open Thread

OSU FootballWelcome to the Open Thread of week 4, with your Buckeyes starting Big Ten competition against the Wildcats.

As usual, we won’t re-hash the excellent game previews already posted by Buckeye Planet and Eleven Warriors.

Discussion
Yeah, yeah, “NW lost to Duke last week, so OSU will beat them by 432 points.” Uh, probably not, and here are a few reasons why:

  • First, when you hit bottom, you tend to bounce. It’s an old rule-of-thumb that teams that are surprised with unexpected losses to inferior competition often come out swinging the following week.
  • Second, it’s the Big Ten opener for both teams. How teams play in preseason is totally different than how they play against conference opponents.
  • Third, two words: Tyrell Sutton. NW didn’t have the injured first-stringer available last week, and if they had, they’d be 3-0 just like the Buckeyes. Sutton’s one of the better RBs in the Big Ten, he’s a leader for the team, and he’ll be in the ‘Shoe this weekend.

Of course, none of this means that NW will earn the victory, but any who expect it to be a cakewalk based on NW’s performance against Duke are mistaken. Pat Fitzgerald is doing a fine job in steadily increasing his team’s respectability.

Questions for the MotSaG crew (and as usual, feel free to chime in with a comment):

  • Final score?
  • How many rushing yards will OSU’s D allow (+/- 100)?
  • How many pushups did players on the OSU special teams have to do this week to pay for last week’s breakdowns?
  • Will we see Brandon Saine (#3 RB) sent into the game before Mo Wells (#2 RB) this week?

sportsMonkey:
Score: OSU, 34-6.
Rushing yards: Under, ~45. (Sutton will earn perhaps 75, but sacks & TFLs will reduce NW’s total).
Pushups: 500 (100 extra per day). Thou shalt not undermine the central strategy of Tresselball.
Saine moves up on depth chart: Too early in the season for Tressel to violate his own hierarchical tendencies, especially for the first conference game of the season. Saine will have to keep up his level for a few more weeks before he moves ahead of Mo. I still think he scores another TD, though.

el Kaiser:
Score: OSU, 41-3. I underestimated the offense last week. Not this time.
Rushing yards: Under, 70 or so. This D is too stout against the run.
Pushups: I already mentioned the long snapping woes. I think the special teams are still doing pushups as we speak.
Saine moves up on depth chart: Depth chart, Smepth fart. They are meaningless trifles that lesser coaches resort to when they lack a backbone. Tressel will insert the best player for the situation. Saine is a better running back that Wells, period. I love Mo Wells and I appreciate what he’s done, but he is one-dimensional. Saine is the real deal and the one-two punch of Beanie and Brandon is sick.

2007 Blogpoll – Week #3

Football

Rank Team Delta
1 LSU
2 Oklahoma
3 Southern Cal
4 Florida
5 West Virginia
6 Ohio State 2
7 Penn State 2
8 Texas 1
9 Wisconsin 3
10 California 2
11 Oregon 8
12 Rutgers 3
13 Alabama 8
14 South Carolina 2
15 Clemson 2
16 Boston College 4
17 Kentucky 9
18 Hawaii 4
19 Texas A&M 5
20 Missouri 6
21 Cincinnati 5
22 Louisville 12
23 Nebraska 10
24 South Florida 2
25 Purdue 1

Dropped Out: UCLA (#11), Arkansas (#14), Georgia Tech (#18), Washington (#23), Virginia Tech (#25).

Let the fact that Miami, Florida State, and Michigan don’t crack our Top 25 but Cincinnati, Kentucky and South Florida do sink in for a while. Mind boggling.

Let it be known that Sylvester-Yon Rambo is a huge Kentucky fan, and his ranking inflated their overall ranking. Beating Louisville was great, but you’ve got to beat someone with a defense before you convince me.

I am, however, convinced that Cincinnati is going to make some noise in the Big East.

It’s not Carr’s fault

FootballIt’s time for OSU fans to – (gulp) – rally behind coach Carr.

Now, before you take me outside and stone me, hear me out.

We’ve made our jibes at Carr, even had him as Tressel’s second banana from time to time, but we only mock that which we respect. The fact is that Carr has done a better job of coaching these past few games than what reactionary UM fans (and ESPN analysts) are giving him credit for.

For instance, in the past four games, Michigan has put up about 1600 yards of offense and scored almost 100 points. Three of the teams they’ve done this against have had excellent defenses (including two of the top five Ds in the country last year). They have a handful of future NFL draft picks – perhaps as many as three first rounders.

Of course, the problem is that the UM defense has given up just about 2000 yards and 150 points in these same four games. Yeah, yeah, “it’s been against all these spread offenses.” But Carr has faced and beaten spread offenses in the past. OSU fans will hate me for bringing up all those wide-open-spread-offense OSU teams from the late 90s that Carr had no problem with beating. He also beat a WSU spread offense for his title in 1997. He destroyed a highly touted spread-offensed Notre Dame team last year, (a ND team that was no doubt overrated, but still much better than I-AA App State).

At any rate, even if Carr is giving up a lot of points… does that automatically make him a bad coach? Rich Rodriguez of West Virginia has what is universally considered to be a pathetic, gimmicky defense, yet he is considered an up-and-coming star of Div. I-A. No, it’s not points and yards that matter, but wins and losses.

There’s no doubt that Carr is still effective in the non-tangible ways of being a coach; anyone who has watched Mike Hart’s post-game comments knows that motivation and leadership isn’t a problem in the UM locker room.

Sure, Carr is ultimately responsible as the “head” coach, and if he can’t fix the problem(s), he should be let go. But he’s earned a shot at trying to fix things. The first thing he should do is fire Ron English, who is primarily responsible for these recent losses. UM’s offensive schemes have been plenty good enough to win, but the preparedness & execution hasn’t been there on the other side of the ball.

So OSU fans should rally behind Carr. I have no problem admitting that this motivation primarily comes from a desire to keep the status quo in the modern “Scowler vs. the Sweatervest” era. Trust me, if they get rid of Carr, it’s going to be Tressel vs. Jeff Tedford or Les Miles, and no OSU fan would want that year in and year out.

However, I also say this as a Big Ten fan. This 1950s, ironman, baby boomer, buick-with-fins, asbestos-insulation-and-nuclear-testing-is-good-for-you, polio-vaccine-era style of football that Ron English is using is making a mockery of the Big Ten. Fall on your sword, Ron, so Carr can have an opportunity to hire a defensive coordinator that actually designs schemes and prepares athletes to play 21st century football.

Please don’t make us add “2007” to the MotSaG Carr tombstone:

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