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Week #9: Penn State University – Open Thread

Let’s do this thing!

Let’s get this out of the way: we Big Ten fans think this game is pretty much as good as it gets. The “Big Ten Bashers” see this as a worse-case-scenario. An Ohio State victory puts them in good shape to climb the ranks as attrition claims other teams above them. This is pretty much everyone’s nightmare. Maybe even for a few OSU fans.

I’m not exactly sure where I stand with that whole ball of wax.

No need to worry about that now, there’s a game to be played tomorrow night. Let’s look at some previews. First, from the other side of the field: A couple previews from Black Shoes Diary, one statistical, one not so much. And just to get things riled up, here are a couple PSU blogger predictions: PSU 24, OSU 21; PSU 30, OSU 24. I think everyone is looking forward to a close, hard-fought game.

Now, a few previews from the good guys’ side of the field. As always, Buckeye Planet has the match-ups and low-down on the game. The O-Zone has the depth chart and Tony Gerdeman’s preview. My paranoia level was pretty high yesterday, but after reading Tony’s preview, my nerves were actually calmed a bit. A couple nuggets:

Penn State has faced three conference opponents who run the ball. Against those three opponents (Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan), they gave up an average of 180 yards rushing. The Buckeyes come into this game with the top rushing attack in conference play, averaging 201 yards rushing per game.

The amazing thing is that those three opponents put up that average while getting blown out. How much better would those numbers have looked had Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan been able to run the ball all four quarters?

That sound you hear? That’s Beanie licking his chops (and sharpening The Stiff Arm of Justice®)

Michigan attacked the Penn State defense by running Steven Threet, but they mainly stayed within the hash marks with him because he didn’t have the speed to get outside. Pryor has the speed to attack Penn State all over the field, but he must do it quickly. Like last week, go forward as quickly as possible and get positive yardage.

Confidence rising.

The QB match-up is interesting for numerous reasons. Clark wanted to come to OSU and Penn State wanted Terrelle Pryor. Clark helped with the recruitment of Pryor. There are other match-ups, but what if it comes down to junior Daryll Clark vs. freshman Terrelle Pryor?

The weather. Does it play a factor?

There’s no need to hype this game anymore. College Gameday will be in Columbus tomorrow. LeBron James will be there. Primetime, Horseshoe, National TV.

Long waits.

Your completely random change of pace link: Baconnaise.

So it’s prediction contest time once again. This week we’re giving away a copy of 100 Things Buckeyes Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die (Available at Triumph Books and Amazon.com)Currently, the line is favoring Penn State 2.5 points. Who you got? (I know the answer, but I have to ask). Which defense rises up to the challenge? Does Ohio State’s defense hold Penn State’s offense to a smaller number than Penn State holds OSU’s?

Let us know! And let us know how you’ll be passing the time waiting for the 8 o’clock kick off.

el Kaiser’s prediction:
OSU: 30
Penn State: 24

Ohio State’s defense wins the battle, but still gives up chunks of yards early.

sportsMonkey’s prediction:
GAH! This is hard hard hard. I am absolutely befuddled about this game. Penn State owns the stats coming in. But they haven’t won a road game against a ranked opponent in six years. Every year there’s supposed to be a “great” matchup, it ends up being an OSU blowout.

The only constant in all these games is that everyone is always surprised at something. So I guess we’re doomed from the outset at trying to make predictions.

One thing is likely: a PSU win would probably put them in position for the BCS title game. OSU would then likely be selected as an at-large for the Rose. A win against Penn State would put OSU in position… to go to the Rose. So OSU won’t have the same pressure that Penn State is going to have, since win or lose, the Rose Bowl is (right now) the likely destination for this team.

Earlier this week, I was planning to pick PSU by 10 points, but as the week has progressed… (I can’t believe I’ve convinced myself of this…)I’m thinking OSU wins 23-17. Here’s two reasons why:

  1. PSU’s (relative) weakness is primarily the rush defense. They’re going against the best rushing attack in college football. The offense has played inconsistent through Beanie’s absence and recovery, but if there’s one shining, awesome fact about Ohio State over the past three seasons, it’s that Beanie plays his best in big games. And they don’t get any bigger than this, in this type of environment (home/night/conference championship on the line).
  2. For whatever reason, Tressel seems to have JoePa’s number recently. True, it’s a different year, but the players, coaches, etc. are still the same from the past two years, when OSU cruised to easy victories.

So there you have it. I’m probably wrong, though. But like I said, the one consistent thing about this mini, diet-flavored rivalry (sorry PSU fans) is that the outcome usually surprises us somehow.

Data against common opponents – 2008 PSU

OSU FootballThis Saturday, the Buckeyes will have their first game against a team with whom they share one or more common opponents.

Like last year, these weekly tables attempt to compare apples to apples between the good and the bad guys. As the season progresses, the tables get longer and become more reflective of reality. Take the first week or two with a grain of salt – the sample sizes are smaller, and therefore it’s harder to draw meaningful conclusions and/or discern any major chronological trends. This week the issue is compounded a bit by the OSU numbers not reflecting a healthy Beanie Wells – who played at 75% with an injured foot against Wisconsin and with the flu against Purdue. Still, the numbers are useful, especially the defensive ones.

The tables list the opponent(s) in chronological order down the first column, and include the following ‘important’ stats: total points (Pts), total yards (Yds), total first downs (Dwns), and turnovers (TOs); for each team and its opponent (Opp).

Table 1: Penn State

  Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Purdue 20 6 422 241 24 16 0 1
Wisconsin 48 7 377 313 22 14 1 4
TOTAL 68 13 799 554 46 30 1 5
AVERAGE 34 6.5 399.5 277 23 15 0.5 2.5

 

Table 2: Ohio State

  Pts Pts (opp) Yds Yds (opp) Frst Dwns Dwns (opp) TOs TOs (opp)
Wisconsin 20 17 327 326 17 19 2 2
Purdue 16 3 222 298 14 18 0 2
TOTAL 36 20 549 624 31 37 2 4
AVERAGE 18 10 274.5 312 15.5 18.5 1 2

 

The values in Table 3 indicate a team’s overall performance, percentage-wise, against the average numbers the common opponents typically allow.

For example, in the table below, PSU scored an average of 31% more points on these common opponents than what those opponents typically allow, while the Lions’ defense held these opponents to 72% fewer points than what they were typically used to, and so on.

Table 3: Performance against what Common Opponents Typically Allow

  % Scoring % Scoring Defense % Yards % Yards Allowed
PSU +31 -72 +9 -27
OSU -31 -57 -25 -28%

 

Notes:
Yowch.

Now, before you Buckeye fans get too depressed about these numbers, it’s worth noting a few things. The defenses are pretty much even, which is good news. Yes, 72% is better than 57%, but the difference is negligible when there is only a four point separation between the two teams. This is reflected in the Yards Allowed column in Table 3.

Offensive production is where the numbers are most disparate. I’m sure Buckeye fans will point out that (1) Beanie’s big toe/flu problem against Purdue, (2) a night game at Camp Randall before Wisco mailed in the rest of its season, and (3) Pryor’s first road start of his career. IMO, excuses. I wouldn’t put much stock in such excuses if they came out of the UM side of the world, so I won’t espouse them here.

I will say, however, that optimism/pessimism aside, none of these charts show intangibles, like injuries, weather, etc. No question that OSU owns the associated intangibles: night game, at the ‘Shoe, in what looks like power-rushing game favoring weather, against an opponent that Tressel & co. have had good historical success against (one that hasn’t played against even a mediocre defense all season long), and with Beanie Wells who just might be above 80% for the first time this season.

But still, the numbers themselves aren’t encouraging. Argue among yourselves.

Michigan State Game Cheers, Jeers and Smears

A couple days late, but that’s par for our course.

Cheers

Malcolm Jenkins – Jenkins’ decision to come back for his senior year has had the most impact on a Buckeye team since Michael Doss announced his return for one more year in 2002. It’s no coincidence they’re both defensive backs. Or #2’s. Jenkins has been on fire and that didn’t stop this week against Michigan State.

James Laurinaitis – The much bally-hooed “match-up” of Laurinaitis vs. Javon Ringer ended up being woefully lopsided. Little Animal was all over the field once again. He’s quietly having a solid season and his performance against MSU was stellar.

Chris “Beanie” Wells – What more can be said? Two running backs came into this game with heaps of praise. One left with a victory, leaving a trail of stiff-armed helmets in his wake.

Terrelle Pryor – Those floaty passes still make me nervous, but LeBrontium in Cleatsium (two new entries on the Periodic Table of Elements) did most things right Saturday. I noticed they ran fewer option reads, which worked out well. The coaches put him in situations where he was able to play more and not think less.

Jeers

Michigan State – Coming in with an impressive 6-1 record, losing only to a goodish Cal team, this game looked to be a nail-biter. Turns out to be anything but. All the bounces went Ohio State’s way early, taking Michigan State out of their game plan too soon. They needed to be able to chew up yards with Ringer, but being down 21-0 zust like zat forced Hoyer to shoulder the load. He was not able to do this, which brings us to…

Smears

Little Animal – LA’s hit on Hoyer in the 2nd quarter knocked his socks into next week. Seriously. They just showed up today.

I had trouble coming up with any more jeers. Do you have any?

2008 Blogpoll Ballot, Week #8

Rank Team Delta
1 Texas
2 Penn State 1
3 Alabama 1
4 Oklahoma
5 Oklahoma State 2
6 Florida 1
7 Southern Cal 1
8 Texas Tech
9 Georgia
10 Ohio State 3
11 LSU 1
12 Utah 3
13 Boise State 6
14 South Florida 8
15 Pittsburgh 5
16 TCU 10
17 Brigham Young 7
18 Ball State 6
19 Missouri 8
20 Georgia Tech 6
21 Florida State 5
22 Tulsa 4
23 Northwestern 3
24 Minnesota 2
25 Boston College 1

Dropped Out: Michigan State (#14), North Carolina (#16), Kansas (#17), Virginia Tech (#18), California (#21), Wake Forest (#23), Vanderbilt (#25).

I only got votes from Zeke this week, so I’m treating this as our “preliminary” ballot, and if the rest of our lazy bloggers are able to get their votes in before Wednesday, then maybe I’ll adjust this. For now, it stands as-is.

I’m still uncomfortable with BYU so high, after the bare-bottom spanking they received from TCU. I think Oklahoma State deserves to be ranked higher than Oklahoma, Zeke does not. Oklahoma always seems to lay an egg against OkieState when it’s important and I’m predicting that to happen again this year. I also think Penn State’s whomping of lowly Michigan was more impressive than Alabama’s squeaker against lowly Ole Miss. But that’s just me. Past Utah, I’m still not sure. Is Missouri ranked too high? (Yes). Does Ball State deserve it’s ranking? (Maybe? I haven’t seen them play, save an occasional highlight).

Confusion reigns supreme. Show us how smart you are in the comments.

Co-Stiff Arms of the Week

Michigan State received a healthy dose of the Stiff Arm of Justice and was introduced to the as-yet named Stiff Arm wielded by one Terrelle Pryor (of Grace? of Righteousness?). So this week we’re getting a two-fer for the coveted SAotW:

“Separation, Holmes”

Which do you prefer?

OK – I’ll be the bad guy…

…and say that we still can’t deduce much of anything from the Buckeye offense after yesterday’s destruction of Sparty.

While it was certainly satisfying to see touchdowns scored – even the most critical of fans must have noticed that whatever could go wrong for Michigan State, did go wrong.

So, in the interests of fostering some reasonable expectations regarding next week’s Big Ten Championship game against Penn State, let’s take a realistic view of yesterday’s game.

Of the Bucks’ 45 points, 14 were scored by the defense. Really, they should be credited with another as well, the first fumble recovery and return deep into the red zone. So that leaves a much more reasonable total of 24 points that the OSU offense actually “earned.”

Continuing the speculation, though, 7 of that 24 came from the Buckeyes benefiting from a one-in-a-million play with Hartline’s big reception. If that play happens 100 times, it results with a first and goal inside the one maybe five times. The other 95 times get split between incompletes, interceptions or catch & tackles.

And how about those fumbles? Have you ever seen a defense so fortuitously served up two (really three) touchdowns? Two balls bounced directly into the hands of running defenders, and one was served up on Cousins’ posterior like a gourmet waterfowl being uncovered on a silver platter by the Queen’s butler.

Oh, and how in the world did OSU recover Ray Small’s muffed punt return? There was one OSU player in the vicinity, and something around fifty green jerseys, yet the ball bounced directly to him.


Knows a thing or two about fortuitous ball bounces

Never in my OSU fan-dom have I seen the team benefit from so many statistically unlikely circumstances.

HOWEVER… even I can understand that one can only take the “what if” game so far. Tressel definitely called off the dogs by late in the second quarter. No way was he planning to run up the score on his old pal and former coach Dino. So even if MSU had stayed in the game, the Vest might have kept attacking, and the outcome would no doubt have remained the same.

And contrary to the first sentence in this post, I’ll concede that we did learn a few small things about the offense. First, we learned that the Buckeyes are improving, if ever so slightly, in red zone offense. Second, it appeared that Tressel has finally surrendered his attempts to turn Pryor into the next Troy Smith, and has finally found a series of plays that are specifically suited for Pryor – the most satisfying of which are the ones that involve the fullback as either a primary (or at least a check-off) receiver. FB Brandon Smith had the best game of his career so far, and Beanie was used as a FB himself from time to time.

We also learned that Pryor has a nifty signature move of his own to match Beanie’s stiffarm – the “leg juke,” which has beaten too many defenders this year to be just coincidentally effective. It’s a slick move against a defender in the open field, where he’ll show a leg going in one direction, snap his hips in the opposite, and wait for the defender to choose the angle (and then go in the opposite direction). For two examples, see his first two TDs (one running, one passing). It’s snazzy, and I think we should come up with a name for it.

Week #8 Open Thread

Here is this week’ Open Thread for available for your commenting pleasure. What’cha watching? Who looks good, who doesn’t?

This will also become the semi-live update for the OSU game.

Ohio State v. Michigan State

This certainly doesn’t bode well.

That 3rd-and-short to Beanie was frustrating, but OSU’s D is looking stout right now.

Beanie and Pryor attacking on the ground with much success.

Ohio State: 7
Michigan State: 0

NOW GO FOR THE JUGULAR!

Beanie is a man possessed. The monkey and I always talk about how he runs “mean”. Now he’s running “mean and nasty”. I love it.

All together now: IT’S ABOUT TIME.

Pryor did a great job eluding the rush, didn’t rush things himself and through a nice pass to Robo.

Ohio State: 14
Michigan State: 0

I just woke up my napping son after Hartline came down with that grab. That thing was a thing of beauty and I want to marry it I love it so much. G’night Sparty. The rout is ON!

Ohio State: 21
Michigan State: 0

Bring Boeckman in!

What’s this? A complete game? The offense and the defense are both playing well?

185 yards of offense in the first quarter? Who is this Buckeye team, and what did they do with the team that’s been playing out there last week?

Second Quarter

Is this the world’s longest Cadillac commercial? I’ve clicked over to the UM/PSU game like three times and it’s still going. (oops, my bad. My DVR had paused the game for me. I R SMRT)

Someone on the sideline or in the booth obviously had an epiphany. Play action passes, roll-out dumps to the TE. And now a little screen to the FB. Kudos to the coaches for pulling their heads out of the sand.

A draw play on 3rd and long? Brilliant!

Ohio State: 28
Michigan State: 0

I’m calling it now: Watch for Tressel to call off the dogs. No way he’s running it up on his boy Dino.

Half-time

Michigan State just got gut-punched.

Third Quarter

Has the defense hit the snooze button? Wake them when it’s the fourth quarter?

Ohio State: 28
Michigan State: 7

Fourth Quarter

I guess the defense was napping — one big hit from who-else and 69 yards goes Thaddues Maximus McSpeedius in the other direction.

Ohio State: 35
Michigan State: 7

Not much more to really type about except for the defense scoring again. I’d like to see that happen more often.

Ohio State: 45
Michigan State: 7

Final

Week #8: Michigan State University – Open Thread

Ohio State travels to East Lansing to take on the surprisingly good Michigan State Spartans this Saturday, 3:30 PM. The game will be on ABC, barring any brain farts from the ABC operators.

How do the Buckeye fans see it? Buckeye Planet and The O-Zone.

How does Sparty’s fans see it? SpartMSU (seriously, Ringer better than Beanie? Come on guys, let’s be reasonable) and The Enlightened Spartan

What about the “Pros”? ESPN and SI.

For all the attention MSU and Ringer are getting for their good ground attack, they’re actually averaging a yard less than Ohio State is per game (177 to 176). A yard is nothing. But our running game has been without Beanie for over half the season. Let’s not forget who has the best running back in the league (when healthy). (That would be Beanie)

Injuries are hurting OSU right now. It’s a total shame that to see DE Lawrence Wilson go down again. It’s almost unfair. Losing Adams and Shugarts isn’t devastating, but losing the chance at redshirting them hurts nonetheless.

Stay healthy, please!

And now it’s broken record time: We have been begging, pleading for the coaches to Unleash the Beast! Isn’t Ohio State’s motto still “Do Something Great®”? How about the coaches motto being “Do Something Different®”? We are just asking to give the Beast a chance. And yet our cries go unheeded. Will this be the game? Will Michigan State come into this game, ready to take it to the Buckeyes and smack them in the mouth, forcing a change? Will a gut punch get the coaches to turn to page 2 of the playbook? IS THERE A PAGE 2? Someone please help me understand.

So if we’re looking at the status quo come tomorrow at 3:30, we could be in for a long game. Ohio State handled Ringer last year. He’s not a big dude. We can and will have to stop him. But we also have to respond. Pryor needs to relax and let the game come to him. Players need to get along and trust each other. Pessism cannot rule the day. So much to do!

There’s no contest this week, but don’t let that stop you from giving us your predictions on the final score. And who wins the battle on the ground? Beanie or Javon? Let us know.

el Kaiser’s predictions:
OSU: 24 MSU: 20 – It’s going to be a close one, but I think OSU’s defense holds strong and only gives up 2 TDs.
Beanie: 180 yds, Ringer: 149 yds.

sportsMonkey’s predictions:
The situation sets itself up for a very bad day for Sparty. While OSU fans have been a little insecure over the offensive performance over past week or two (myself included), we have to remember that this team is actually underachieving. Conversely, MSU has ridden a one-dimensional scheme into a respectable record, has been overachieving, and overconfidence is brewing as a result.

Both situations will have to balance out sometime, and this weekend is the likely opportunity for it to happen. Sparty is overconfident, not only because of their success under Ringer, but also because of OSU’s struggle last week against Purdue.

I think it’s dangerous to look at OSU’s struggles and underestimate them. Beanie Wells had the flu last week – he did not practice or do drills all week, and was wheezing and gasping on the sidelines – and still put up just shy of 100 yards. MSU’s rushing defense is ranked 8th in the Big10, and that stat includes giving up 140 yards to Sutton last week.

And their quarterback? Hoyer has played for three more full games than Pryor has, yet Pryor has two more TDs on the season (9 touchdowns to Hoyer’s 7). MSU has not shown the ability to win games with their QB yet.

Therefore, that leaves Ringer. Ringer is good, yes, and will give MSU the best chance it has to win the game. But if there is one very, very nice thing about OSU this season, it’s the dependable and consistent play of the defense. This defense – this starting class of the past few years – has not yet failed a challenge against a one-dimensional team (e.g, a team known either for a great back, or a great QB). OSU handled Ringer last year, and a more experienced, veteran defense will probably do the same thing again this Saturday. No question whatsoever – OSU will absolutely keep Sparty to a reasonable amount of points.

That means – shocker! – that OSU will have to depend on its offense to win this one. Who knows which Buckeye team will show up? They seem to be rudderless. I know it’s cliche to say this, but it almost appears as if OSU’s offense (under Pryor) has been playing to the level of its opponent.

With all those factors in mind, I think MSU’s intensity ratchets up the Bucks’ own performance and (if OSU plays like it has been the past month or so) OSU will struggle at times but still win convincingly 20-13. However, if the “balancing” I mentioned above happens, they could easily win this game 41-10.

Either way, Beanie may almost double up Ringer, 160 yds to 90.

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Contest Winner

Just a quick announcement of last week’s “Predict the Score” contest winner, NMUSpidey. His prediction of 13-9 was the closest to the final, paltry score 16-3.

Congrats for being conservative, not going for the big offensive explosion we’re all still waiting for. We’ll be in touch and get your copy of Woody Hayes’ Ohio State Buckeyesin the mail soon.