Be careful for what you non-Big Ten Conference folks really want. You get a playoff and teams like Georgia, Florida, USC, and LSU would have to travel to some pretty undesirable places in December and January for an NC. Unlike the current system, that allows them to play home games in the bowls. We (most OSU fans) welcome the playoff idea..as it will make teams cater to weather and travel, which is a joke in the SEC. At least the PAC-10 will travel…regardless of the perceived conference strength.

Get out of here with that weak sauce, son…

i live in the state up north, before that i lived in new mexico and i’ve done nothing but defend the buckeyes and the big ten. if tress starts to slip, i’ll let you know. however, from my many years of watching buckeye football i can tell you that we are far from that point. we are competing with the best, beating that school up north and that is all i ask for.

another note, for those of you who are asking if it is enough to beat michigan, i would be ashamed. of course it is enough, of course it is everything. how many overall wins does michigan have? how dominate have they been over the years? how much history have they as a premier football institution? every win over that school matters. every win over that school is a war won. every win over that school places one more brick in the proud history of tOSU. those of you new to this party are the ones asking if it is enough. please show your commitment for more than a couple of seasons before asking this question.

JT’s loyalty to TB is admirable, but is misplaced. TB is not capable of winnning a big game, he screwed up against Illinois, he screwed up against LSU and he screwed up against USC. Why in the H*&()) is the offensive coordinator running TB on QB sweeps? He looks like a school girl running to the restroom!! Bench TB and play pryor the rest of the year, at least we have something to look forward to.

Yeah, these losses suck, but what do you want instead? Citrus Bowl Wins? What makes you think that a new coach would be able to win these NC games, or even get the Bucks there? What about off the field issues?

Yes I agree it sucks defending the Bucks to everyone, it’s what I do living outside of Ohio every day. I don’t think everyone would enjoy letting us have it if they hadn’t met that one jerk Buckeye fan in ‘85. Try not to be that guy.

Chuck, Tressel’s latest contract is entirely athletic dept $ = no public money – I don’t know about previous deals. And is he asking for raises? Regardless, look at what he’s given back to the University through the Library renovation with his book – 100% of proceeds.

They refuse to believe what they see and it is out of cognitive dissonance … what they see rationally does not comport with what they have made themselves believe. Namely, that JT is a better than decent coach. He is nothing more than that. He is a decent coach who has been in the right place at the right time. The facade is now crashing down.

some of the JT apologists will never “get it”. I keep reading crap where people claim this is a great time to be a buckeye and Tressel has done so much, and so what if we lost, we lost in 2 NC games and to USC etc. this is all garbage.

the only reason we were in the NC the last 2 years was because we weren’t able to be knocked off in our own weak conference. Getting rolled by the only good teams we play is not in anyway a golden era.

We do not owe JT anything, folks. He has been paid very handsomely out of the taxpayer coffers and do not forget that. It’s not like he has been volunteering his time now has he? The gall he has to keep asking for a raise when the team he is in charge of falls further and further from competing for a NC is amazing.

So under Tressel excluding this year the buckeys have the following results.

1 loss against M*ch*g*n
5 wins, and 2 losses against Penn St, game is usually on National TV
4 wins, 1 loss against Purdue, another game that is usually on National TV
3 wins, 2 losses against Illinois, another game that is usually on National TV
3 losses, and 2 wins against Wisconsin <- this is what people should be bitching about
4 bowl wins including national championship and 3 losses including two national championships.

To have an understanding of the difficulty of making it to a national championship, and winning, since 1990 the only coach with a winning record that has appeared in more than 2 national championships is Tom Osborne 3 wins 2 losses (5 total). Bobby Bowden 3 losses, 2 wins, Lloyd Carr two losses one win, of course since the BCS there are no teams with a winning record when they have appeared in more than 2 national championships. LSU is a perfect 2-0.

@ ATLBuckeye remark “He’s the worst OSU QB I can remember” there is no qb worst than Steve Bellasari.

*The interception return stepped out of bounds and our defender got clearly blocked on a “pick” on a touchdown. Ask last year’s Okalahoma team about Pac 10 officials.

Bottom line: I don’t care – win or lose, we’ll still support them.