Comments on: Be proud, Buckeye fans, and have some perspective, will ya? http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/ An Ohio Sports Blog Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:38:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sportsMonkey http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-85900 sportsMonkey Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:44:48 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-85900 Wow... bit late for the trolls to still be coming out of the woodwork, eh? Still, it's been too long since I've had an opportunity to talk about OSU football. This'll be fun. >>Michigan was banged up with injuries, Penn State has been on the decline for 6 or 7 years, and Wisconsin underachieves year after year.<< If there's anything that proves Sneaky Pete doesn't know much about CFB, this statement is it. PSU hit rock bottom 6 or 7 years ago, and has been rising (did you forget their top three finish in 2006?). Wisconsin "underachieves year after year." (?!?) Yeah... right... with the past three years going 9-4, 10-3, and 12-1... and beating Auburn and Arkansas in that time frame... (And coming within seconds of beating Tennessee...) sounds like underachievement to me... And that UM team that was "banged up with injuries" had no problem spanking the defending national champs "zomgSEC hide the children" Florida. Finally, Tressel is 4-2 in BCS bowl games, and has had an impressive resume against non-conference opponents (Big 12, Pac 10, ND, etc.). His success hasn't been measured just against Big Ten teams. Basing your opinion on what happened in two games out of almost 100 is a pretty unpersuasive argument. Wow… bit late for the trolls to still be coming out of the woodwork, eh? Still, it’s been too long since I’ve had an opportunity to talk about OSU football. This’ll be fun.

>>Michigan was banged up with injuries, Penn State has been on the decline for 6 or 7 years, and Wisconsin underachieves year after year.<<

If there’s anything that proves Sneaky Pete doesn’t know much about CFB, this statement is it.

PSU hit rock bottom 6 or 7 years ago, and has been rising (did you forget their top three finish in 2006?).

Wisconsin “underachieves year after year.” (?!?) Yeah… right… with the past three years going 9-4, 10-3, and 12-1… and beating Auburn and Arkansas in that time frame… (And coming within seconds of beating Tennessee…) sounds like underachievement to me…

And that UM team that was “banged up with injuries” had no problem spanking the defending national champs “zomgSEC hide the children” Florida.

Finally, Tressel is 4-2 in BCS bowl games, and has had an impressive resume against non-conference opponents (Big 12, Pac 10, ND, etc.). His success hasn’t been measured just against Big Ten teams. Basing your opinion on what happened in two games out of almost 100 is a pretty unpersuasive argument.

]]> By: Sneaky Pete http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-85871 Sneaky Pete Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:03:22 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-85871 Blah,Blah,Blah... Ohio State plays in a weak Big Ten conference. This is why they get spanked by Florida and LSU. Michigan was banged up with injuries, Penn State has been on the decline for 6 or 7 years, and Wisconsin underachieves year after year. Is Ohio State a good football team? Yes. Tressel a good coach? Yes. Within the Big Ten. Boeckman cruised through the Big Ten with no defense to challenge him, then came LSU. Yes, Illinois showed up in Columbus in 07. They refused to be intimidated by the big bad Buckeyes. I hope all of you got a good look at the Rose Bowl(Ill. vs. USC). Fast foward to OSU @ USC in 08. The Buckeyes won't get pounded like Illinois, but USC will win by two touchdowns. After that, Ohio State can get back to it's easy Big Ten schedule. Blah,Blah,Blah… Ohio State plays in a weak Big Ten conference. This is why they get spanked by Florida and LSU. Michigan was banged up with injuries, Penn State has been on the decline for 6 or 7 years, and Wisconsin underachieves year after year. Is Ohio State a good football team? Yes. Tressel a good coach? Yes. Within the Big Ten. Boeckman cruised through the Big Ten with no defense to challenge him, then came LSU. Yes, Illinois showed up in Columbus in 07. They refused to be intimidated by the big bad Buckeyes. I hope all of you got a good look at the Rose Bowl(Ill. vs. USC). Fast foward to OSU @ USC in 08. The Buckeyes won’t get pounded like Illinois, but USC will win by two touchdowns. After that, Ohio State can get back to it’s easy Big Ten schedule.

]]> By: G8RB8R http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83599 G8RB8R Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:18:03 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83599 "at Miami..." - shud read as "are Miami..." “at Miami…” – shud read as “are Miami…”

]]> By: G8RB8R http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83598 G8RB8R Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:16:12 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83598 <i>E.g., Florida hasn’t traveled out-of-state for a nonconference game in SIXTEEN years.</i> Ah, that 'Evil Genius', Steve Spurrier! Gotta love him. Nothing like your HBC being an alum, too. In the SEC, these patsy games do not really seem to matter in the long run, anyway. You certainly do not want to go into our conference schedule without some kind of game experience, but then you do not want to go into the SEC wars with injuries, etc., incurred during meaningless games. The patsies at the beginning of next year's schedule at Miami (the REAl Miami) and Hawaii - much better than Florida A&M and Georgia Southern. I'm all for playing the stiffs - it's the only time I can get tickets! E.g., Florida hasn’t traveled out-of-state for a nonconference game in SIXTEEN years.

Ah, that ‘Evil Genius’, Steve Spurrier! Gotta love him. Nothing like your HBC being an alum, too. In the SEC, these patsy games do not really seem to matter in the long run, anyway. You certainly do not want to go into our conference schedule without some kind of game experience, but then you do not want to go into the SEC wars with injuries, etc., incurred during meaningless games. The patsies at the beginning of next year’s schedule at Miami (the REAl Miami) and Hawaii – much better than Florida A&M and Georgia Southern.

I’m all for playing the stiffs – it’s the only time I can get tickets!

]]> By: our.honor.defend » Blog Archive » 2007’s 5 Moments of Unbelievable Awesomeness: #5 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83519 our.honor.defend » Blog Archive » 2007’s 5 Moments of Unbelievable Awesomeness: #5 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:43:00 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83519 [...] idea has been done elsewhere, as well as here and started here. However, this wrinkle stems from a MotSaG post that reminds Buckeyes to take some perspective of the past 3 Big Ten title runs. It’d be hard to fault Buckeye fans for having a case of the blues right about now: the Bucks [...] [...] idea has been done elsewhere, as well as here and started here. However, this wrinkle stems from a MotSaG post that reminds Buckeyes to take some perspective of the past 3 Big Ten title runs. It’d be hard to fault Buckeye fans for having a case of the blues right about now: the Bucks [...]

]]> By: sportsMonkey http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83328 sportsMonkey Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:12:29 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83328 chazz - This whole YSU, Akron, and Kent St. stuff is overblown. LSU played Miss. St., Middle Tennessee, and Tulane - three programs just as "bad" as OSU's worst three. The only difference between the teams' schedules is Va Tech (LSU) vs. Washington (OSU)... and when OSU scheduled Washington, they were a top team in the Pac 10 (no way to predict that Washington would lay an egg this year). Everyone schedules patsies... It's puzzling why dumb-dits like Mark May gives OSU trouble for doing it when LSU/Fla/Ga did the exact same thing. <p> </p> Mary - That's a myth... there is no law. OSU plays plenty of tough non-conference opponents (they had those exciting home & home with ND a few years ago, then Texas in 05/06, we start a home & home with USC next year, etc.) The reason that the Big 10 doesn't play the SEC is because the SEC has _repeatedly refused_ these matchups, because it requires them to travel northwards - which they have historically, with very rare exception, not been willing to do. E.g., Florida hasn't traveled out-of-state for a nonconference game in SIXTEEN years. Thankfully, the SEC is starting to join the other conferences, but it's only because the other conferences are moving forward and they had not been. Ergo, recently we've seen Tenn/Cal, and LSU/Va Tech, and Georgia finally agreed to a home & home matchup with the Bucks, which will start in 2009. They're starting to come around. chazz – This whole YSU, Akron, and Kent St. stuff is overblown.

LSU played Miss. St., Middle Tennessee, and Tulane – three programs just as “bad” as OSU’s worst three.

The only difference between the teams’ schedules is Va Tech (LSU) vs. Washington (OSU)… and when OSU scheduled Washington, they were a top team in the Pac 10 (no way to predict that Washington would lay an egg this year).

Everyone schedules patsies… It’s puzzling why dumb-dits like Mark May gives OSU trouble for doing it when LSU/Fla/Ga did the exact same thing.

 

Mary – That’s a myth… there is no law.

OSU plays plenty of tough non-conference opponents (they had those exciting home & home with ND a few years ago, then Texas in 05/06, we start a home & home with USC next year, etc.)

The reason that the Big 10 doesn’t play the SEC is because the SEC has _repeatedly refused_ these matchups, because it requires them to travel northwards – which they have historically, with very rare exception, not been willing to do.

E.g., Florida hasn’t traveled out-of-state for a nonconference game in SIXTEEN years.

Thankfully, the SEC is starting to join the other conferences, but it’s only because the other conferences are moving forward and they had not been. Ergo, recently we’ve seen Tenn/Cal, and LSU/Va Tech, and Georgia finally agreed to a home & home matchup with the Bucks, which will start in 2009. They’re starting to come around.

]]> By: Woody Hayes http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83269 Woody Hayes Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:23:07 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83269 Good post. Good post.

]]> By: Mary http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83247 Mary Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:28:05 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83247 To Chazz - Ohio passed a law that makes OSU play 3 games in the state to give money to the other schools in Ohio to fund their athletics program and then we have our conference games...That is why no SEC play during regular season...The state has done this to Ohio State in order to keep more money in state. Bad for us Buckeyes! To Chazz – Ohio passed a law that makes OSU play 3 games in the state to give money to the other schools in Ohio to fund their athletics program and then we have our conference games…That is why no SEC play during regular season…The state has done this to Ohio State in order to keep more money in state. Bad for us Buckeyes!

]]> By: chazz http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83239 chazz Fri, 11 Jan 2008 03:27:11 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83239 I have been a Buckeye fan since 1967 and I won't fold on this team but I'm afraid that future Buckeye teams will not get the benefit of the doubt in future BCS polls and may be passed over for another shot at the NC until they prove their "worthiness" by beating quality opponents during the regular season. That means no more Youngstown State, Troy, and Kent State. Does anybody know the reason why the SEC and the Big Ten don't play during the regular season? Thanks and Go Bucks! Oh yeah, LSU was beatable. I have been a Buckeye fan since 1967 and I won’t fold on this team but I’m afraid that future Buckeye teams will not get the benefit of the doubt in future BCS polls and may be passed over for another shot at the NC until they prove their “worthiness” by beating quality opponents during the regular season. That means no more Youngstown State, Troy, and Kent State. Does anybody know the reason why the SEC and the Big Ten don’t play during the regular season? Thanks and Go Bucks! Oh yeah, LSU was beatable.

]]> By: AZTigerFan http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/comment-page-1/#comment-83203 AZTigerFan Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:46:45 +0000 http://menofthescarletandgray.com/2008/01/08/be-proud-buckeye-fans-and-have-some-perspective-will-ya/#comment-83203 My bad, Eric G. No disrespect meant. Just having fun. See ya'll in Miami next year! COngrats on a great "rebuilding" year! My bad, Eric G. No disrespect meant. Just having fun. See ya’ll in Miami next year!

COngrats on a great “rebuilding” year!

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